Here is a rant incoming!
This morning I was working out at the gym with my gym buddy (as in, my friend from University who I have been gymming with since 2012). He was setting up his wide armed pull up while I was failing to do a normal pull up (or even a jump and slowly lower)
While gym buddy went to get more weights, a trainer from the gym came and asked if he was training me
"definitely not!" I said "we have been gym buddies for years"
"well it looks like he's training you" said the trainer
"I can assure you he is my gym buddy. He has trained for 15 years while I've had four kids. He is much stronger than me"
"the thing is" said the trainer "we have trainers who pay to train here so he can't train you"
"he's not my trainer. He's my friend" I said
At this point, gym buddy came back. the gym trainer told him he couldn't train me. We both insisted he wasn't training me. We asked him to leave us alone, but I was really angry at this point.
Gyms are generally not safe spaces that encourage women, and I assume he came to harass me because I was one of the only women in the rack area at the time? Certainly the only late thirties mom of four in the rack area.
Would we have been told we were breaking rules if I was with a girlfriend? Or is it because was working out with a super strong dude?
I asked the trainer for his name so I could write a letter of complaint. He asked why I was upset and I told him that I get to go to the gym once a week with my gym buddy and it's upsetting that he spent 10 minutes of that arguing with us. his response? "Yeah yeah you have kids whatever". He then proceeded with:
"Well you need to listen to my side now because that's what a conversation is, and if you want to have a conversation you need to listen to me"
At that point I went back to training, but I felt intensely uncomfortable for the rest of the workout.
I could not explain to the trainer man how incredibly infuriating it is that when women enter men's spaces - such as the free weights section of the gym - it's so quickly noticed. How targeting me tells me that I am the "other" and that my presence needs to be accompanied by a trainer. That it would be impossible for two people, for a woman and a strong man, to train together as friends.
I looked around me and saw so many men. There are two older men who train together who asked what is wrong.
I couldn't answer "the patriarchy" or "feeling excluded from this space because I've I have boobs"
I told them my friend has been accused of training me and we all laughed.
Those two trained together all the time and have never been told they were training each other.
There were women in the gym. Most women were alone, following programs on their phones.
My gym buddy asked the gym to clarify, and they said that it looked like he was training me, and it was a situation they had been monitoring. They noted that he could no longer give me any instruction, or guidance.
Since my main reason for going to the gym is to see the gym buddy I am not really clear on how this will work. Can I do the same sport as him? Can I work out after him on the same equipment? Can he pass weights to me as I've seen lots gym buddies do for each other? Are we allowed to talk? Are we allowed to talk about workouts? Am I allowed to ask what his next excercise is?
I know I should figure out how to complain, but maybe the corporate gym world is just too big and too scary and too full of men unhappy that a woman isn't paying them to tell them what to do.
The problem with injustice, as minor as this one is in the big scheme of things, is it can be quite profitable for many.
This sounds like an awful experience and INFURIATING for all the reasons you point out. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
ReplyDeleteOk, wait, maybe I missed something before, but this is a friend you know from outside the gym? Or did you meet him at the gym years ago and just start working out together? Like, have you worked out at this same gym all this time? (If so, why is this just an issue now?) Either way, this is ridiculous! I mean, I can see that they can't allow a random trainer to come in and start working with someone for pay. But you are definitely not paying him (right?). Does he spell out the workouts for you, or do you do your own thing? (I feel like this shouldn't really matter, so long as you are not paying him for the service!) He's just a friend!
ReplyDeleteI think it's ridiculous to think that a friend cannot help or mentor another friend. What if you guys both golfed and went golfing together, but he has a better swing and gives you a few pointers? Would that mean your friend is giving you a golf lesson? What if I was there with you and you followed along with my Life with Sohee workouts and I gave you some tip on your form as we chatted? Would that mean I'M training you?? Ridiculous!
Like I said, I can understand they don't want people come and training others "under the table" instead of using their trainers. Plus there would be liability issues. If your gym buddy was there 5 hours a day with all different people "working out", I could see their point. But presumably that is not the case! This is so annoying and I would be really mad!!
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DeleteI can see the issue if it was a new person that was going along and that they might be concerned about incorrect use of equipment etc. is that the assumption here? If you are already trained and just lifting for fun then what’s the problem?
DeleteWell maybe not fun, but it’s not training either.
DeleteI've just updated the post a bit, but my Gym Buddy has been my Gym (and life!) buddy since 2012. We've gone to lots of gyms over time, and most recently joined one by my house since I now could go once a week with him. Although joining a gym to go once a week seems silly, I do just love working out with him. I've been at this gym for about 3 months, and of course I don't pay him but I basically just follow whatever he does at the gym (or do something similar) so that we are in the same space at the same time and can talk and catch up between sets. I did wonder if this is what counts as "training" but also... he just has a list of movements he does (that he gets from his trainer) and I do the same ones. He does sometimes help me choose weights, but also so does my other sport friend when we work out in her house.
DeleteIf he wasn't there and I did this same workout I assume that would be fine? I'm really only there to see him and get a bit of exercise... a once a week gym habit doesn't really fit any fitness goals except having fun).
I am so glad you are annoyed on my behalf. I am doubly annoyed because I can't really do anything about it - I think we have to join a different and more expensive gym. If the trainers at this gym are going to harass me and/or watch me workout then I am going to be really uncomfortable going - and I think that's exactly what will happen if I go back.
I think that the gender and fitness differential is what makes it an issue, because as you said I don't think two women working out together and giving pointers would be a problem. And yeah - what if I got your gym schedule? are you my trainer? What if I follow a Peloton workout at the gym - is Peloton my trainer?
Also, gym buddy and I only go once a week to this gym (he uses another gym for the rest of his workouts) so he's definitely not hanging out there for 5 hours. I am so annoyed, and trying to not be annoyed, and then getting more annoyed.
I keep thinking that maybe someone telling me what to do counts as training. But then I remember all the running routes I've planned for us and I would never think of myself as a running trainer. Or the mountain biking tips I've given. So if me asking my friend "what's the next movement" counts as training then I guess we are not allowed to work out together?
Thank you for your thoughts Kae!!
Ahh sorry I retyped my reply. But just for the commenter above - the gym guy definitely didn't say that they had any concerns about form or safety. They actually said "he never trains here" while he was racking his own belt to do pull ups. They said they only see him coaching others - which I was slightly annoyed about because he's always doing his plan, and his weights with me just following along.
DeleteOk, now I'm wondering if the red flag for them is the fact that you guys both just go this gym once a week. I assume it'd be easy for them to pull up your account and see that you're each only there 1x/week. SO, I can "kind of" see how it could look like he's a trainer and you guys arranged your weekly session at this gym. Or something. Perhaps if you guys both went several times a week to this gym (alone) and were just meeting up 1-2x/week, that would look different.
DeleteEspecially if they've had issues with people abusing the trainer policy at that gym, I guess I don't have a huge problem with them asking you about it. But your honest response should more than suffice for them to say, ok, got it- thank you for clarifying! And move on. It shouldn't continue to be a big deal!
How awful and sexist. How dare they ruin your one day with your gym buddy! I'm angry on your behalf that he harassed you, and that the gym as an institution was "monitoring" you. What bull. The one tiny nice part was that you were able to laugh about it a little with the two older men - solidarity! -rachel
ReplyDeleteSorry, I swore in my initial rant-y comment so took it down. I'm so sorry this happened, and I wish that calling management out on their sexism directly - in a letter, maybe, making it official - would help. But I'm not convinced it will. :( I hope you don't run into that trainer again - he doesn't seem like the kind to be quailed by a glare, unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteIt seems they’ve had or are having issues with this. However, that does not mean they should project these issues onto other (innocent) people. Maybe you could ask the gym to clarify what a gym buddie is for them, and include your list of questions above, as well as do gym buddies need to be of the same sex, weight and level. It might help highlight how ridiculous the trainer’s attitude to you was. Why should you feel bad about spending some time with a friend doing something you have in common and enjoy. For me having a gym buddy was the motivation for going and we enjoyed catching up with people, so it was also a social thing.
ReplyDeleteThis is absolutely ridiculous. I am so upset on your behalf. And they're been "monitoring the situation"?? WHAT SITUATION. You can't be at the gym together with a friend. WTactualF? (Can you tell I am getting riled up?). The gym has NO RIGHT to tell you that you can't workout with your friend.
ReplyDeleteYou should have said that you're training HIM. I would have liked to see that guy's face.
What in the actual hell??? That is all.
ReplyDeleteHope the asshats at the gym resolve this. Sorry you had to deal with that. Unbelievable... "monitoring...??"
Monitor my butt.